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Post by Stuffed Patrol on Jul 8, 2018 19:08:21 GMT
Mia Ford
Suspicious activity: Stuffing (https://www.amazon.com/When-Wrong-Feels-Right-Compilation-ebook/dp/B07DT2N7Q7/ref=la_B01N7U91U3_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1530809158&sr=1-1)
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Post by K'Sennia Visitor on Jul 8, 2018 21:42:57 GMT
Hey, thanks for participating, stuffed patrol! Mia does have 8 books stuffed in one, but at least she says so at the very bottom of the book description. The stuffers are prolly waiting to find out whether amazon will be satisfied with adding compilation and letting peeps know the books are stuffed, or if they'll crack down on that, and do what everyone else wants them to and make it one asin per book. Only time will tell. Thanks for starting the record!
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carl
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Post by carl on Jul 8, 2018 23:25:58 GMT
Sorry, but what are we talking about, "stuffing"?
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Post by Stuffed Patrol on Jul 9, 2018 0:51:32 GMT
Book stuffer refers to "bonus stuffing" when an author inflates their KENP by adding "bonus" books to their titles to earn more KU money.
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Post by Stuffed Patrol on Jul 9, 2018 0:57:23 GMT
Hey, thanks for participating, stuffed patrol! Mia does have 8 books stuffed in one, but at least she says so at the very bottom of the book description. The stuffers are prolly waiting to find out whether amazon will be satisfied with adding compilation and letting peeps know the books are stuffed, or if they'll crack down on that, and do what everyone else wants them to and make it one asin per book. Only time will tell. Thanks for starting the record! She/he is worth keeping an eye on. I get a sense there's some collusion between Ford and RR Banks, Nikki Chase, Madison Faye and a few others. There's nothing inherently wrong with that (newsletter swaps) but if they're incentivized through Chance Carter's BookClicker (whatever) they're violating mailing list providers terms of service as well as various laws. |
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Post by K'Sennia Visitor on Jul 9, 2018 1:33:49 GMT
Hey, thanks for participating, stuffed patrol! Mia does have 8 books stuffed in one, but at least she says so at the very bottom of the book description. The stuffers are prolly waiting to find out whether amazon will be satisfied with adding compilation and letting peeps know the books are stuffed, or if they'll crack down on that, and do what everyone else wants them to and make it one asin per book. Only time will tell. Thanks for starting the record! She/he is worth keeping an eye on. I get a sense there's some collusion between Ford and RR Banks, Nikki Chase, Madison Faye and a few others. There's nothing inherently wrong with that (newsletter swaps) but if they're incentivized through Chance Carter's BookClicker (whatever) they're violating mailing list providers terms of service as well as various laws. Could you share more information about what tingles your spidey "collusion" sense? Especially about the laws they're breaking! Hopefully a lot of newbie authors will lurk here and the more info we can have to help them stay afloat of the law is a good thing! The only mailing list laws I'm aware of are the ones where you have to use a real address where you can get mail, you can't send spam, and you have to make it easy to unsubscribe and then unsub them when they ask. So I'd love more info to find out what I'm missing without having to sign up for their newsletters.  |
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Post by GrahamCrackers on Jul 9, 2018 13:03:08 GMT
This is a very useful post on stuffing Carl: davidgaughran.com/2018/06/10/cassandra-dee-mosaic-book-stuffing/Pay particular attention to the visual representation of the book contents. You can clearly see how the same title gets put into the bonus matter of several books who are themselves bonus matter, who are then also put into the bonus matter of other books. Confusing and clearly redundant, the only possible explanation is that they're attempting to reach the magic max page read available to them. This is then repeated in other books with the same exact content with another story acting as a the "front page" title material. By encouraging their readers to quickly flip through the 3000 pages of content they earn, I believe, $13.50 each time. This is then taken out of the finite Kindle Unlimited communal pot for the month, ultimately reducing payments to other authors for their genuine reads. |
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Post by Stuffed Patrol on Jul 9, 2018 14:21:08 GMT
She/he is worth keeping an eye on. I get a sense there's some collusion between Ford and RR Banks, Nikki Chase, Madison Faye and a few others. There's nothing inherently wrong with that (newsletter swaps) but if they're incentivized through Chance Carter's BookClicker (whatever) they're violating mailing list providers terms of service as well as various laws. Could you share more information about what tingles your spidey "collusion" sense? Especially about the laws they're breaking! Hopefully a lot of newbie authors will lurk here and the more info we can have to help them stay afloat of the law is a good thing! The only mailing list laws I'm aware of are the ones where you have to use a real address where you can get mail, you can't send spam, and you have to make it easy to unsubscribe and then unsub them when they ask. So I'd love more info to find out what I'm missing without having to sign up for their newsletters. My understanding is we can't sell our mailing lists (according to Mailerlite) to third parties. I'm not exactly sure what Chance's deal is, but the impression I have is he sells and/or pays for access to cabal's separates lists (someone mentioned it on KB a while ago). The collusion aspect I get from the newsletters themselves, which seem to rotate on a schedule always promoting the same authors, some of whom haven't even bothered to delete their banned books (which return a 404 on Amazon). Also, the tone of the separate newsletters are exactly matched. |
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Post by K'Sennia Visitor on Jul 9, 2018 17:37:44 GMT
Could you share more information about what tingles your spidey "collusion" sense? Especially about the laws they're breaking! Hopefully a lot of newbie authors will lurk here and the more info we can have to help them stay afloat of the law is a good thing! The only mailing list laws I'm aware of are the ones where you have to use a real address where you can get mail, you can't send spam, and you have to make it easy to unsubscribe and then unsub them when they ask. So I'd love more info to find out what I'm missing without having to sign up for their newsletters. My understanding is we can't sell our mailing lists (according to Mailerlite) to third parties. I'm not exactly sure what Chance's deal is, but the impression I have is he sells and/or pays for access to cabal's separates lists (someone mentioned it on KB a while ago). The collusion aspect I get from the newsletters themselves, which seem to rotate on a schedule always promoting the same authors, some of whom haven't even bothered to delete their banned books (which return a 404 on Amazon). Also, the tone of the separate newsletters are exactly matched. Oh okay, thanks for being more specific! Selling email lists is always a no-no, but it's still popular in the internet marketing world, as is selling people ad space on your newsletter. They have peeps who make a living doing that. What you describe with the mirroring and everything certainly sounds like collusion to me. It could be innocent if we didn't know these authors weren't also stuffing and committing the other bad acts. |
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