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Post by K'Sennia Visitor on Dec 22, 2018 20:43:40 GMT
I know there are a lot of tools out there, some free, some paid that can help us be faster, better, and more productive. Tell us about the tools you've used that have helped you the most, and which ones you have tried which didn't do what they said on the tin.
I have tried canva.com for creating and formatting my journal, and I liked it. 'Twas easy to use until it came time for exporting, and it would only let me export a limited number of pages at a time. That was annoying to enough to me that I started over and did the whole thing in WPS (which is a free version of Word.) I like WPS better than Libre Office and Open Office because it has the old ribbon and tabs and they just recently added an alphabetizer tool, which I use a lot. The only thing I don't like about it is the funky word count. It counts a lot more things as words than other programs do, so your word count will always be inflated.
I usually make my covers in paint because it's so easy to use, and the limited number of options made it less intimidating when I first started out. I now have photoshop and Gimp and paint.net. Paint.net is my absolute fave because it's the most familiar layout, and I think I've made a couple of covers using it now. I'm still a neophyte at cover creation, but slowly over time, I learn tiny new skills.
I just recently downloaded and added Grammarly, which is cool. It edits as I type things online, and I think it might work offline, too. I haven't written anything offline yet, so I'm not positive. But it has already helped me today with several errant commas and misspellings. Go Grammarly!
I also discovered editminion, which is fun because when you paste a chapter into it, editminion highlights all of the homonyms, weak works, adverbs, and adjectives. It doesn't make any suggestions for how to make it better, just points out words which could be better. And it doesn't check spelling and punctuation.
Wikimedia commons is where I get most of my cover photos. And this forum and my facebook group help me with having somewhere to post my word counts for accountability.
Your turn. What are your favorite tools?
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Post by writeway on Dec 26, 2018 4:08:37 GMT
I make covers so Photoshop is hands down a tool I cannot live without. ProWritingAid is another great tool I use though I liked it better before they recently changed it. I guess I'll say Word too since I've been using Word for 20 years. Some people dog Word but it's good enough for me. Those would be my three must-have tools.
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Post by Jeff Tanyard on Dec 29, 2018 7:20:21 GMT
OpenOffice
Calibre
Photoshop Elements Blender Kindle + Send to Kindle app
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Post by robertlcollins on Dec 29, 2018 15:14:13 GMT
Pages for MacOS - I write in it, and I can format print books and ebooks in it. It also lets me set up book covers.
Preview for MacOS - I create a PDF of the print cover, open in Preview, create a JPG file, then cut that down to get the ebook cover.
As for images. Wiki Commons, but I also try to use photos I've taken every so often, since I do like to get out and take pictures of buildings and landscapes I find while traveling. I'm hoping to take a day trip or two in 2019 to add to my personal photo collection (and thus to the personal images I could use for book covers).
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Post by dormouse on Dec 30, 2018 17:34:59 GMT
I've used a vast array of writing & image editing software, free and paid, often concurrently. Choices sometimes limited by collaborators or contractual requirements (large corporates tend to the very rigid). I'm always amazed by the number of writers who depend, almost wholly, on word processors - a class of program originally developed to save secretarial time with the easy formatting & revision of documents (and then for end users to do the same without having to go through a secretary). Documents that were originally usually dictated to them. No features aimed at creation. They have improved, but not that much. I've had to do it myself, but it has never been easy, although most will work for pantsers. I have current licences for all the leading word processors on Windows, Android and iOS; & the free ones, but try not to use them because the advantages don't outweigh the weight. I'm having a go at using Atlantis &/or Jarte for document based work because they are quicker, simpler and lighter. There's always a tension between document/file based systems and those using databases. I've always tended to databases, but they are not so easy to mix and match and its imperative to know how to export your data again. But most document users don't have a good system for managing the totality of their information; they don't use tags, and their folder hierarchies tend to fall apart in use and they don't really work at all for lots of very small documents. For writers looking to do everything within a single program I would recommend trying Simon Haynes' yWriter first. Cross-platform. Simple and straight-forward. Free. Does exactly what it says on the tin; and no more. Like Scrivener, it is a bit of a cross between a document and a database approach (has a database, but the text is saved in files). Works well, but not brilliantly suited to those with many projects or with complex needs. I really, really like OneNote. I like the books on the left, the tabs on top and the pages on the right. Cross-platform. Integrates with Word & Excel. Free last time I checked. Capable of containing everything required for complex projects. Can draw or write freehand (with stylus). Not really keen on text boxes for body text, though they do have advantages. BUT. Tried it a number of times. Always hit a glitch where it can't do something. Sometimes it's just a bit complicated. The Onetastic add-ins make it easier. Nevertheless I've always ended by giving it up again. Until next time. So I like it, but definitely don't recommend it. One program I use increasingly is DoogiePIM. It's another 'old' program (roots must go back to the last century with gemx TexNotes & Do-Organizer), but it has been rewritten and receives very regular updates (and support, if needed, is excellent and very fast) and there is a community forum. Not free ($69) but there's at least one half price sale a year (always one in April, I think). Windows only (Android maybe in the future). Determinedly local storage (though can use Dropbox folders etc) with option for encryption. In its day, the original was a much loved (by some) superPIM so there's a huge number of functions: text editor, journal, spreadsheet, calendar, email, browser, task manager, contact list &etc; I suspect that most users ignore most of them. A lot of options appear on the right-click menu, which suits me well. I have it set with a 15 minute reminder timer. - I use the document editor and journal. Many useful statistics (eg word & sentence count, Gunning-Fogg, Flesch-Kincaid), pop-out editor for writing (though I don't use that). I particularly like the colour bar (I like using colours during editing), the ability to write very small pieces or snippets using the journal and easy access to multiple projects.
I use like the Noteboard for brainstorming and planning. In some ways, it is similar to the Scrivener v3 corkboard, except it is huge and notes can be individually resized & links can be drawn between them. Note colouring is more flexible.
- I sometimes use a spreadsheet as part of a planning process (easier to manage than a large table).
- Can have multiple calendars (dates go back to year 0 Gregorian calendar) which can be useful in some planning (the year planner only goes back to 1900, but the calendar has a year view).
I can see it working well for a self-publishing writer with blogs and websites, prices, taxes & etc IF they like everything in one place. it's a pretty robust program. Exporting multiple selected documents in one go is possible, but the method not immediately intuitive (I'm sure this will be amended soon). I have most things onscreen because I have it on a large monitor and like the visual complexity, but it can be used with virtually everything out of sight. It (& the originals) are much loved by a proportion of users, and it's easy for a software junkie like me to manage, but I suspect that quite a lot of people will find it too complicated. Another program I like very much is WriteMonkey v3 (still in beta); another program with very old roots. Free, but use of some advanced features requires a donation (any amount). Windows only. Set up for keyboard control, but a lot of options are accessed through the right-click menu. Very small, fast program & portable. Works rather like a single-pane, Workflowy-like outliner. I especially like the very rarely seen text-folding feature which makes it easy to hide huge sections of a document to make it easier to focus on others or to check continuity between early and late sections. It's an essential feature of text-editors (paradoxically a programmers' tool and not a writers' one) but rarely seen elsewhere.
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Post by dormouse on Jan 2, 2019 21:27:46 GMT
I notice that the current kBoards thread reinforces the evidence that most writers use a word processor, usually Word, quite often Google Docs. Ditto the evidence from the Atomic Scribbler survey .I'd been sent it as a PageFour purchaser (works OK iirc, though I couldn't remember anything I'd actually used it for) but didn't complete it because I thought it was just another marketing ploy from a vendor. The results were interesting, although the genre & gender results suggest a skewed sample (maybe skewed responders, maybe a skewed set of users, though the comment about SmartEdit and romance, suggests it's not this). The question I have for word processor users, is what do you use for managing your research, your world building, your planning, your nice phrases that don't quite fit where you originally wrote them, your records of interesting overheard conversations and dialect, your idea list?
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Post by corabuhlert on Jan 3, 2019 4:20:08 GMT
I use MS Word and Office in general, because that's the standard in my day job. Additional information, worldbuilding notes, ideas, etc... get either saved as separate Word document or as a OneNote notebook, since OneNote comes with Office anyway. I use Excel for sales tracking.
It works well for me and while I could afford Scrivener, I don't really see the need.
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Post by Jeff Tanyard on Jan 3, 2019 5:02:32 GMT
The question I have for word processor users, is what do you use for managing your research, your world building, your planning, your nice phrases that don't quite fit where you originally wrote them, your records of interesting overheard conversations and dialect, your idea list?
I use OpenOffice Writer for draft-writing and outlining. I also use OpenOffice Calc for series-wide plotting and character arcs.
I use Notepad whenever I think of something that needs to be jotted down. I have lots of Notepad files. When writing a first draft, I'll have a single Notepad file dedicated to taking notes about things that occur to me during the writing of the draft. By the time I finish that draft, that Notepad file will be several pages long. Then the second draft is basically just incorporating those notes into the first draft.
I use MS Paint when I need to sketch out a map or diagram (like a battlefield) so I can keep straight where all the characters and buildings are and whatnot.
For the most part, I just use Notepad and OO Writer. I only rarely use Paint and Calc.
I've got multiple folders where I try keep all these files organized.
I'm satisfied with my system. It's not for everyone, but it works for me.
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Post by K'Sennia Visitor on Jan 4, 2019 0:16:28 GMT
For short stories, I don't need anything but a word processor. I also like google docs a lot, too. But I do need something else for my epic worldbuilding because it's all a ginormous cataclysmic mess. At one point, several years ago, I'd managed to copy/paste all of my notes and my written stories divided up by character and place and concept into one large encyclopedia word doc. But it was thousands of pages long and too unwieldy to use, by the end. So the goal now is to do the same thing, just use text files for each entry and stick them all in a folder. The only issue is that it will take weeks to complete this and sticking to one plan for several weeks is hard for me. But I do prefer word processors because they are free form and easier to use.
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Post by corabuhlert on Jan 4, 2019 4:07:47 GMT
OneNote is really good for worldbuilding bibles and the like, in my experience.
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Post by cate on Jan 4, 2019 16:09:50 GMT
My system as a Word user: I have a separate document for links to sources, and basic info I need for each book. Any photos are stored in the book folder on my computer. My story bible is done the old fashioned way - by hand and in a binder. I will print things to add to it, but I like having something in my hand that I can grab. It's organized by tabs, so it's very easy to search.
I do use the Notes app on my iPad, and copy the information over to my main Word doc or create a new doc and print it for the bible. I use Notes for to do lists more than anything, or ideas that pop into my head as I'm falling asleep.
I tried OneNote, but I never could organize it the way my anal self would want it.
Because I started world building back in the pre-Internet age, writing out my story bible became a habit long before other tools were available. I do test out the ones I come across: yWriter and Scrivener were two I spent much time on. For both, I walked away frustrated, and went back to Word. I've been using it for longer than I want to admit. It does everything I need it to do, quickly and well.
Graphics is where I invest learning time, since I make my own covers for certain series. I use Canva for basic things, and Photoshop for my covers. I have played with Book Brush, and like all the features they're adding. That may be another investment this year.
I do use Dragon dictation, which has been a game changer. It allows me to wander around my office instead of sitting for hours, and my word count has shot through the roof. It lets me spend less time writing, and more time on the business side, as well as more time just enjoying life.
My big purchase this year will be Vellum, because I want to step up my formatting, and start creating paperbacks again.
I like to keep things simple, and as streamlined as possible. As long as it works for me, and I get the results I'm after, I'm not going to change because of a new, shiny toy. Been there, done that, wasted oh so much time.
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Post by dormouse on Jan 5, 2019 1:01:38 GMT
But I do need something else for my epic worldbuilding because it's all a ginormous cataclysmic mess. At one point, several years ago, I'd managed to copy/paste all of my notes and my written stories divided up by character and place and concept into one large encyclopedia word doc. But it was thousands of pages long and too unwieldy to use, by the end. So the goal now is to do the same thing, just use text files for each entry and stick them all in a folder. The only issue is that it will take weeks to complete this and sticking to one plan for several weeks is hard for me. But I do prefer word processors because they are free form and easier to use. Another advantage of word processors is that you an use any of them on a given document and so they have a degree of flexibility in use. Disadvantages sometimes include unwanted formatting instructions, but the big one is this business of organisation. Theoretically, you can do it using folder hierarchies, file names or tags but most people, me included, fail to keep that up well enough. And even then you would need to remember which document a bit of information is written in; (Search) Everything is very fast searching for file names and types. I used to run text search programs, but speed always required indexing and that always slowed the computer and took up a surprising amount of disk space; they're still out there (at least some are, I've not kept up), but you can set Windows to index within files at locations of your choice. Works OK I think, with fewer bells and whistles than standalone options, but you still have the background indexing overhead to endure. If you still have your file archive, it might be worth setting Windows up to index within the files in that set of folders and see how well it works. Would search in your huge document as well as the others (alternatively you could just copy all the documents into OneNote as Printout and use its search features.. The alternative is shoving the content into a database program. OneNote is really good for worldbuilding bibles and the like, in my experience. Agreed. To my mind this is an impressive example of useful worldbuilding using OneNote <abbr class="o-timestamp time" title="Jan 4, 2019 16:09:50 GMT" data-timestamp="1546618190000">Jan 4, 2019 16:09:50 GMT</abbr> cate said:I tried OneNote, but I never could organize it the way my anal self would want it. And that's one of the problems. It's idiosyncratic. Some people love it, some people hate it. Very complex and a commensurately steep learning curve although it can be deceptively easy to start. And its tagging system is awful. And development of the desktop version (OneNote2016) has stopped (security updates until 2025) and the app version doesn't retain all the features of the desktop version. Evernote seems to be going the same way. There are alternatives (many, many alternatives) DoogiePIM, RightNote, UltraRecall are ones I've used recently, but they only work on Windows. The most important thing with any of them, is that you need to know how you can get your data out because you really don't want to risk it becoming locked and you need to take frequent backups (this is usually automatic). But the key is having one that works in a way you understand and are comfortable with. You can save files, documents, webpages and other links (or just their locations) in all of them. yWriter and Scrivener were two I spent much time on. My experience of all of the programs designed purely for writers is that they comfortable working for one book at a time. They are also deliberately designed with limitations which may or may not suit your own preferences. I think they can be effective for people who work on one or two things at a time, but don't for people who have lots of things on the go. And, personally, I usually find their extra features (storyboards, character & location sheets etc) too limiting. Word. I've been using it for longer than I want to admit. I remember Word for MS-DOS (& for Mac & Atari). Wasn't as good as WordStar or WordPerfect, but improved steadily and it had the inside track when Windows was launched, and never looked back. So many keyboard shortcuts to remember then. I actually started writing on a very old manual typewriter (must have bought it when I was eight or so); you'd need the strength of a blacksmith to touch type using all fingers - I just used two and, even then, it kept jamming because I was typing too fast. Quite often I'd do first drafts (& corrections) by hand. I could always understand why all secretaries then coveted golfballs. I do use Dragon, but feel uncomfortable with it when I'm not alone.
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Post by dormouse on Jan 5, 2019 1:46:30 GMT
And summarising, the usage so far seems to be: - word processor/onenote/spreadsheet
- word processor/spreadsheet/notepad/paint
- word processors
- word processor/notes/paper folder/dragon
which is a set of systems I do understand. I take my hat off to everyone who uses their word processor for outlining. It makes sense for people to use the familiar if it works, because rough edges from a program that might not work the way your mind expects, just interferes with creativity and unnecessary learning curves are best avoided - and too often conclude by a programs's failure to do what you want the way you want to do it. My own approach is governed by some very individual needs (I need programs to deal with many projects and many different types of writing, I need to work across platforms and locations, and I much prefer being able to use visualisation) and by long familiarity with many types of software which makes many types of program feel familiar very quickly. I have been used to using multiple systems concurrently and had been hoping to fix on a - more or less - single system for most of my work. And I've never been comfortable with word processor outlining. - I use DoogiePIM because it has a complex corkboard equivalent, a text processor that really suits me, and all the other attributes of a database type program thus enable it to manage multiple projects easily. And a spreadsheet. And a journal for notes. And a good right click menu. I could use OneNote, but I'd have to use an external corkboard equivalent and text processor (though I might do the latter anyway for first draft). Or Rightnote & etc.
- Also use NoteZilla. It's a web-syncing multi platform sticky note program. I copy sources and prompts in to it so it is easy for me to arrange them where I want on the screen while I'm working. I find it much quicker than switching between documents.
- I use Dragon. Sometimes.
- AeonTimeline for particularly complex calendars.
- I mostly use Evernote for web capture. & sometimes write in it. With SimpleNote, it will probably be my best option for mobile writing (copying in and then pasting out).
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Post by corabuhlert on Jan 5, 2019 6:33:39 GMT
I started out with WordStar, then switched to Lotus WordPro and the rest of its SmartSuite (great software). Eventually, Windows stopped supporting the old Lotus SmartSuite, so I had to switch to Office and Word for good. I'm used to it now, though I still think Lotus WordPro was better. Word is also way too focussed on teamwork in offices, etc... and it always tries to push its formatting choices on me.
Google Docs I hate. I use it sometimes, when required, but I live in an area with shaky internet, where the connection occasionally goes down for a few minutes. When I'm working in Google Docs at this time, I cannot even correct a typo. When I'm working in Word on my own PC, I just type through the outage.
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Post by corabuhlert on Jan 9, 2019 5:11:14 GMT
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Post by dormouse on Jan 9, 2019 21:47:16 GMT
I always liked wikis in theory & dabbled with TiddlyWiki and WikidPad years ago (I always wanted local rather than server based), but never really took to them. Other people swear by them for everything. May well be a personal thing. You can achieve some of the benefits by using a text processor & indexed text searching - but you then lose the links. And most of the database programs have the facility for extensive linking - but they tend to require more structured input. It is certainly a good option to consider.
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Post by K'Sennia Visitor on Jan 10, 2019 2:44:13 GMT
In V's name, this could literally save TUOK. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
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Post by corabuhlert on Jan 10, 2019 5:43:54 GMT
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Post by dormouse on Oct 22, 2019 23:07:55 GMT
But I do need something else for my epic worldbuilding because it's all a ginormous cataclysmic mess. At one point, several years ago, I'd managed to copy/paste all of my notes and my written stories divided up by character and place and concept into one large encyclopedia word doc. But it was thousands of pages long and too unwieldy to use, by the end. So the goal now is to do the same thing, just use text files for each entry and stick them all in a folder. The only issue is that it will take weeks to complete this and sticking to one plan for several weeks is hard for me. But I do prefer word processors because they are free form and easier to use. Another advantage of word processors is that you an use any of them on a given document and so they have a degree of flexibility in use. Disadvantages sometimes include unwanted formatting instructions, but the big one is this business of organisation. Theoretically, you can do it using folder hierarchies, file names or tags but most people, me included, fail to keep that up well enough. OneNote is really good for worldbuilding bibles and the like, in my experience. Before my recent hiatus, I had a system, but was aware that it creaked a little and that the organisation was fairly rigid and required me to remember it. And anything new that didn’t automatically fit in somewhere required me to make a decision about where to put it. Requirements make life harder. And anything in the way of a gap makes remembering the system harder (it is simple enough now, but I know that it’s only going to become more complicated. Much more complicated). So I have decided to give a zettelkasten system a go. Should help someone like me who has a lot of different projects and commitments. Basic idea is that things are done one thing at a time and that links and connections can be made at the time or later. Allows complexity to grow organically without having a rigid structure imposed from the beginning. Haven’t decided what software to use. Lots of recommendations on the internet, and the original system was pen and paper (cards I think). The major demand appears to be to always stick to using it. And then it gives the freedom to do what you want, when you want.
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Post by K'Sennia Visitor on Oct 23, 2019 5:58:01 GMT
I am still desperately trying to get and remain organized. I have *some word* function issues in my brain which makes it really hard for me to organize things, make decisions, and know which things go in which order, etc. It's co-morbid with Aspergers. I tend to freeze whenever I have to make a new decision. I'm really good at downloading new stuff, researching, and deleting stuff. But then I have this hugenormous project in front of me, and I don't know what to do next, and I freeze, and go off and sabotage myself to procrastinate. So I sympathize dormouse with any system that doesn't require decision making. My biggest lesson is trying to come to terms with it being okay with the other things I'm interested in existing while I'm currently interested in one of my other things. My constant deletion/panic-get it all back/deletion/panic-get it all back/deletion cycle has wasted many more years than I can count. But I am doing things every day to help me get a little bit more organized. Staying that way is harder. But I was able to find an older version of WPS Office because I hate, hate, hate their latest layout. I use WPS because it does everything word does, including split screen, tabs, and it even has an alphabetical sorter. I have ywriter, but I haven't done much with it yet. I have lots of scattered notes and thousands of copies of story stuff. All of that is slowly being organized. *for the eleventy-millionth time* I hear that eleventy-million-and-one is the key! I tried looking at the wikis before but they felt overwhelming and scary. But I want to look at them again. But yeah, WPS, notepad, and folders are really all of the tools that I actually use at this point.
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Post by dormouse on Oct 23, 2019 10:35:48 GMT
I do understand those organisational difficulties. I don't have them (I simply have a tendency to take too much on and overwhelm any system I have), but I do understand them. I am not an expert on the zettelkasten. I'm not even a novice. But my understanding is that you can dump everything in it. Recipes, holiday research, world building and all other projects. And you never need to delete. Or change or reorganise the system. Some people it seems have project zettelkasten; I suspect that their need to be organised, prevents them from trusting organisation to a system they don't have under lock and key. I've never been neat and tidy, I've never finished one project before moving on to another, I've often had competing deadlines. I have always been organised in my thinking, but being able to release the time and effort that takes would increase my productivity and reduce the stresses (I don't have a tendency to stress, so there's a risk that my tendency to take things easy will just produce inactivity rather than increased productivity). I've been aware of the system for a few years. It's a minor buzz in the academic world and in Germany. The originator was a Professor Luhmann who was always willing to discuss his amazing productivity (he was also a single parent - with housekeeper though, so he didn't do everything at home). I don't know that he ever described it precisely and I suspect that a number of commentators have misinterpreted it. The most frequent websites ( zettelkasten - Mac based - and TakeSmartNotes - Windows, Linux, general) seem unnecessarily fixed in their interpretations, software recommendations and assuming an academic usage (which I suppose is not surprising given its history). I'd always dismissed it as too heavy and rigid to be a good fit, but had an Aha! moment when I saw it mentioned the other day. So my next step is to read more and refine my own thoughts. My vision is to have everything I research and write in it, including plans, outlines etc with the ability to fetch what I need out of the system fairly instantly; for everything I do. I know that it only functions if it is always used - no slacking, no holidays, no half jobs when ill - and we'll see if I have the discipline for it. If I find the system irksome I won't. Then I will consider how to implement it. I'm very aware that software changes and programs dying can critically wound personal systems - as you have discovered. The desktop OneNote (2016) is drifting away from support and Evernote is deep in the doo-doo, and I wouldn't be confident in building a house on their foundations, let alone a city of skyscrapers. So I want a system that will be immune to those changes. Many others are aware of the issue, and there seems to be a trend to using plain text notes with dynamic links using either tags or searches and saved searches. I need to read and think more before I have sensible thoughts.
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