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Post by K'Sennia Visitor on Aug 15, 2018 3:27:48 GMT
Eibhlin MacIntosh has a fun writing blog that I enjoy perusing sometimes, and in an article she put out a few years ago she suggested writing a book about odd cemeteries and graves. And ever since she suggested that I've wondered whether people's graves could be copyrighted or would they be public domain? If you took pics of people's graves, the shape/design/inscription, and used them inside your book and on the cover could someone sue you? I've heard that certain building designs could have copyright on them, so would graves be the same way? I'll include a link to her homepage since I mentioned her. eibhlin.com/writing/ |
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Post by DD on Aug 15, 2018 15:40:57 GMT
Eibhlin MacIntosh has a fun writing blog that I enjoy perusing sometimes, and in an article she put out a few years ago she suggested writing a book about odd cemeteries and graves. And ever since she suggested that I've wondered whether people's graves could be copyrighted or would they be public domain? If you took pics of people's graves, the shape/design/inscription, and used them inside your book and on the cover could someone sue you? I've heard that certain building designs could have copyright on them, so would graves be the same way? I'll include a link to her homepage since I mentioned her. eibhlin.com/writing/ I"m not sure how that works. I know some buildings are trademarked, so you can't use them on book designs. And some graveyards are public, which seems like it would make them ok as the subject of a photograph or other art, but other graveyards are private, even though they are also out in the open. Probably only an intellectual property lawyer could say for certain, but I would think that unless the grave was treated badly (you make the occupant a zombie cannibal or something) I'm not sure most people would mind. But I'm famously unbothered by most things, so maybe I'm not a good authority on that sort of situation.  |
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Post by K'Sennia Visitor on Aug 15, 2018 18:20:46 GMT
Eibhlin MacIntosh has a fun writing blog that I enjoy perusing sometimes, and in an article she put out a few years ago she suggested writing a book about odd cemeteries and graves. And ever since she suggested that I've wondered whether people's graves could be copyrighted or would they be public domain? If you took pics of people's graves, the shape/design/inscription, and used them inside your book and on the cover could someone sue you? I've heard that certain building designs could have copyright on them, so would graves be the same way? I'll include a link to her homepage since I mentioned her. eibhlin.com/writing/ I"m not sure how that works. I know some buildings are trademarked, so you can't use them on book designs. And some graveyards are public, which seems like it would make them ok as the subject of a photograph or other art, but other graveyards are private, even though they are also out in the open. Probably only an intellectual property lawyer could say for certain, but I would think that unless the grave was treated badly (you make the occupant a zombie cannibal or something) I'm not sure most people would mind. But I'm famously unbothered by most things, so maybe I'm not a good authority on that sort of situation. Thanks I hadn't considered the public/privateness of cemeteries. I doubt I'd ever do a book like this since I'm not sure and I can't exactly afford a lawyer. But I thought it was an interesting question to bring up. Celebrities graves or historical figures graves would probably be safe, I'd think. |
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Post by corabuhlert on Aug 16, 2018 2:44:43 GMT
Books about old cemeteries such as guides to particularly beautiful headstones and famous people buried there are definitely a thing and apparently legal. As for using a cemetery photo on a book cover, if the cemetery and gravestone are old enough, copyright won't be a problem. As for privacy concerns, I like taking photos of old cemeteries and I post them online on occasion, but I won't post photos of recognizable graves unless the people have been dead for at least twenty or thirty years. I actually have used a gravestone photo as a cover for a short story (hey, it was free and it fit the story), but I made sure that you cannot read the names on any of the headstones. The cover is here BTW. The photo in question was shot at Glasnevin cemetery in Dublin.
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Post by K'Sennia Visitor on Aug 16, 2018 6:47:32 GMT
Books about old cemeteries such as guides to particularly beautiful headstones and famous people buried there are definitely a thing and apparently legal. As for using a cemetery photo on a book cover, if the cemetery and gravestone are old enough, copyright won't be a problem. As for privacy concerns, I like taking photos of old cemeteries and I post them online on occasion, but I won't post photos of recognizable graves unless the people have been dead for at least twenty or thirty years. I actually have used a gravestone photo as a cover for a short story (hey, it was free and it fit the story), but I made sure that you cannot read the names on any of the headstones. The cover is here BTW. The photo in question was shot at Glasnevin cemetery in Dublin. That's cool. I like your cover. It's simple but still looks professional. How did you do the font letters? I'm pretty hopeless with covers. I use paint. I can take a pic and write words on it using the paint supplied fonts, and that's pretty much it. I'm glad to know there are books out there like that. I'd never seen one so wasn't sure. That's a good rule of thumb, keeping a 30 year death distance. I have a short story that takes place in a cemetery. I haven't published cos it's too short and is terrible, but if I were to ever fix it, it's good to know I have options for the cover. |
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Post by corabuhlert on Aug 17, 2018 2:16:13 GMT
I used a program called PhotoPos Pro. Used to be free, but in the newest version, the free version no longer is as powerful. The background is a marble texture and the fonts came from dafont or 1001 free fonts. Just make sure the font is okay for commercial purposes.
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Post by EllieL on Aug 18, 2018 16:31:22 GMT
Oh my goodness, the thread subject had me worried for a minute! I was imagining a double decker grave scenario or something and was going to say that if you're using someone else's grave, it would be hard to be sued... being dead and all.
I'll go back to quiet lurkdom (snorts)
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Post by DD on Aug 18, 2018 16:35:03 GMT
Oh my goodness, the thread subject had me worried for a minute! I was imagining a double decker grave scenario or something and was going to say that if you're using someone else's grave, it would be hard to be sued... being dead and all. I'll go back to quiet lurkdom (snorts) "I'll be seeing you in court, you grave thief! My lawyers will bury you!" |
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Post by EllieL on Aug 18, 2018 16:36:27 GMT
Oh my goodness, the thread subject had me worried for a minute! I was imagining a double decker grave scenario or something and was going to say that if you're using someone else's grave, it would be hard to be sued... being dead and all. I'll go back to quiet lurkdom (snorts) "I'll be seeing you in court, you grave thief! My lawyers will bury you!" Oh hell, I just spewed coffee all over my monitor! |
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Post by K'Sennia Visitor on Aug 18, 2018 16:39:12 GMT
Oh my goodness, the thread subject had me worried for a minute! I was imagining a double decker grave scenario or something and was going to say that if you're using someone else's grave, it would be hard to be sued... being dead and all. I'll go back to quiet lurkdom (snorts) *giggles* I'm glad someone caught that. I think that cemeteries did and have double-dipped in graves before, by burying people in the same space. I think there's an old cemetery somewhere at a church that is rumored to be hiding buried treasure, and the corpses there were buried 7 layers deep, with a new body on top of another one. I think they each had their own coffin, plus layer of dirt, in between them and the new body. But if nobody gets cremated burial space does get limited. I should write a story about a haunted urn that wants to have sex with me. Pounded in the butt by the haunted urn of the old lady who lived here before.  |
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Post by DD on Aug 18, 2018 20:17:09 GMT
Oh my goodness, the thread subject had me worried for a minute! I was imagining a double decker grave scenario or something and was going to say that if you're using someone else's grave, it would be hard to be sued... being dead and all. I'll go back to quiet lurkdom (snorts) I should write a story about a haunted urn that wants to have sex with me. Pounded in the butt by the haunted urn of the old lady who lived here before. Ashes to asses, and dust to bust... |
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