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Post by K'Sennia Visitor on May 22, 2021 22:26:24 GMT
About Hugh's rep, I knew it. LOL! I have "some" experience with the movie thing. I had a little independent filmmaker wanting to adapt one of my books probably around 2007-2008. We didn't even get past the first meeting (which was online) because the dude couldn't get funding though he'd worked on some small films before. Nothing big or Hollywood, low-budget stuff. But still I was flattered. We came in contact on Facebook and though I didn't hold my breath, it was an interesting experience. Then, there was a playwright who wanted to adapt one of my stories into a play. We worked together about 2-3 years but he never completed the script. He was supposed to write the story into a script for the play. He was known around the black drama circuit and had been in many plays. I was excited and he was a nice guy and we spent many times going over notes, etc. But after about three years and he still hadn't finished the script, I told him I was no longer interested and he agreed. I figured he'd lost interest or maybe was too busy because he was so excited at first then as time went on, things changed. At first he contacted me all the time and let me know how things were going then I wouldn't hear from him and when I'd write him asking it would be like, "Oh, yeah. We're on the ball. Still working on the script. I still wanna do it." He kept saying that all that time but I'd see him doing other plays and all this and I figured he had the project more on the backburner but he'd wasted my time all those years and getting my hopes up. He even had a few theater actors lined up for it and I talked to them through email but as I said, as time went on...things faded. Now mind you, all this was when I was trade published so my books were in stores and I was also with a big press. See when you are with one of the Big Six (well four now) then agents and film people get lists and stuff of books being published, etc. So it's easier for film folks to come across your work when you are trade published. I also had an agent who was also sold Hollywood scripts. She would send my books to Hollywood agents, etc but nothing came of it. So, yeah I know how it can be unpredictable with this adaptation stuff. but Hugh was speaking as if the Wool movie was almost coming out. That's why it's so noticeable that after all these years no one is even talking about it. After going through those experiences I had, I didn't even want to bother with adaptations anymore. At least I won't be sending my books off to agents anymore. Now if someone reads my work and comes to me, we can talk. But I won't be actively searching. I have no interest. I'm happy just writing my books. So at this point, you're as experienced as Hugh. Where's your Vella rep? It would have been really neat to see your book acted out on the stage, or on the screen. Although, adaptations often suck. It's good you didn't get your hopes up too much, but it must have been super frustrating to have all that time wasted. |
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Post by writeway on May 22, 2021 22:26:48 GMT
My experience is why I brought you the time thing with Hugh. I said in an earlier post that it could be that as the project sat on the table, the studio, director, etc might've lost interest. As I said before, Hugh was hot back then. Wool was hot. But not anymore. That's been a decade at least. In Hollywood, it's best to strike while the iron is hot. That's why you see movie adaptations of popular movies right after the book becomes a hit. It's because filmmakers wanna cash in on the interest. But the longer the project sits, the world moves on, the people who want to do the film move on to other things and once you're put on that backburner, you rarely get off. More movies are shelved than made. That's for sure and right now, I can't see Wool being something Hollywood would risk investment in. You'd be banking on a book that became a hit over a decade ago. That's a long time. Time is no one's friend in Hollywood. Once something isn't popular anymore or the person isn't popular, they throw you aside. If would be different if Hugh had been consistently on top for a few books. But he did Wool and vanished. I know he released Sand years later but by then his star had dimmed. Why do you think they made all the Harry Potter movies right behind each other? A year or so apart? Because they made them while the books were hot and as JK released them. They knew if they waited, interest would wane. Not that I am comparing Hugh to JK Rowling. She's an icon who has sold a gazillion books all over the world, but just saying. Why do you think Hollywood jumped on that? Same with Fifty Shades of Grey. The minute that book went crazy, they started making the movies and they made each one right behind each other. Same with Twilight. Every time you looked around there was a new Twilight movie because they were filming as soon as Stephanie Meyer stopped typing each one. Hollywood knows that projects are on borrowed time. Wool wasn't half as popular as those books and again, he's no longer relevant. Not trying to be mean but it's true. No one talks about Wool or Hugh anymore except indies who kiss his feet. Even Dan Brown and people like that aren't hot anymore. Dan Brown was the same thing. Hollywood made his whole series in one clump. Again, they were striking while he was hot. We haven't heard about Dan Brown in years. That's how fast people fade. Is he even still writing?
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Post by writeway on May 22, 2021 22:28:43 GMT
About Hugh's rep, I knew it. LOL! I have "some" experience with the movie thing. I had a little independent filmmaker wanting to adapt one of my books probably around 2007-2008. We didn't even get past the first meeting (which was online) because the dude couldn't get funding though he'd worked on some small films before. Nothing big or Hollywood, low-budget stuff. But still I was flattered. We came in contact on Facebook and though I didn't hold my breath, it was an interesting experience. Then, there was a playwright who wanted to adapt one of my stories into a play. We worked together about 2-3 years but he never completed the script. He was supposed to write the story into a script for the play. He was known around the black drama circuit and had been in many plays. I was excited and he was a nice guy and we spent many times going over notes, etc. But after about three years and he still hadn't finished the script, I told him I was no longer interested and he agreed. I figured he'd lost interest or maybe was too busy because he was so excited at first then as time went on, things changed. At first he contacted me all the time and let me know how things were going then I wouldn't hear from him and when I'd write him asking it would be like, "Oh, yeah. We're on the ball. Still working on the script. I still wanna do it." He kept saying that all that time but I'd see him doing other plays and all this and I figured he had the project more on the backburner but he'd wasted my time all those years and getting my hopes up. He even had a few theater actors lined up for it and I talked to them through email but as I said, as time went on...things faded. Now mind you, all this was when I was trade published so my books were in stores and I was also with a big press. See when you are with one of the Big Six (well four now) then agents and film people get lists and stuff of books being published, etc. So it's easier for film folks to come across your work when you are trade published. I also had an agent who was also sold Hollywood scripts. She would send my books to Hollywood agents, etc but nothing came of it. So, yeah I know how it can be unpredictable with this adaptation stuff. but Hugh was speaking as if the Wool movie was almost coming out. That's why it's so noticeable that after all these years no one is even talking about it. After going through those experiences I had, I didn't even want to bother with adaptations anymore. At least I won't be sending my books off to agents anymore. Now if someone reads my work and comes to me, we can talk. But I won't be actively searching. I have no interest. I'm happy just writing my books. So at this point, you're as experienced as Hugh. Where's your Vella rep? It would have been really neat to see your book acted out on the stage, or on the screen. Although, adaptations often suck. It's good you didn't get your hopes up too much, but it must have been super frustrating to have all that time wasted. ROFL! No Vella rep here and I would reject one if Amazon tried to give them to me. Yeah, I didn't get my hopes up at least with the filmmaker because I could tell he didn't have any money. LOL! But he talked a good game. I was disappointed about the play though. But, yeah it's tough and I'm afraid Hugh missed his time. I can't see that movie being done now at least not by Hollywood. |
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Post by K'Sennia Visitor on May 22, 2021 22:41:36 GMT
I wouldn't call Apple "hollywood." So he might have a chance. And if Lena Headey really likes his thriller story, she has the money to get that other series made on Spectrum. Spectrum originals aren't exactly HBO. But who knows, maybe one day the right show will hit, and it will get more popular.
I was very vaguely aware of Wool back in the day. I'm pretty sure I downloaded the first episode when it was free. I thought it was okay, but I didn't care enough to purchase any more episodes. I guess other people liked it a lot more?
I'd only do Vella if they wrote me a big check upfront, cos I'm definitely not counting on the program to earn anything. I'm also not a fan of serials, either, to read or write. Will only switch over if real books disappear and serials are all that anyone will read.
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Post by writeway on May 23, 2021 1:08:14 GMT
I wouldn't call Apple "hollywood." So he might have a chance. And if Lena Headey really likes his thriller story, she has the money to get that other series made on Spectrum. Spectrum originals aren't exactly HBO. But who knows, maybe one day the right show will hit, and it will get more popular. I was very vaguely aware of Wool back in the day. I'm pretty sure I downloaded the first episode when it was free. I thought it was okay, but I didn't care enough to purchase any more episodes. I guess other people liked it a lot more? I'd only do Vella if they wrote me a big check upfront, cos I'm definitely not counting on the program to earn anything. I'm also not a fan of serials, either, to read or write. Will only switch over if real books disappear and serials are all that anyone will read. Aw, you don't like serials? They're fun to write but I don't wanna write them for Vella. I plan to write my own serial soon because I do enjoy writing shorts. Serials can be very lucrative for authors because it's very easy to hook readers. Many complain about cliffhangers yet will keep buying the books anyway. LOL! As for Wool, I'm not a fan of Sci-Fi or whatever genre he writes so it never occurred to me to get any of his books. The Apple TV thing is definitely not Hollywood but good luck to him on it. Sure is funny though. Since Hugh has such an in with Amazon, you'd think Amazon Studios might be interested or maybe he shopped it to them and they didn't want it. I like Lena Headey but once again this sounds like a repeat of what Hugh said last time about Ridley Scott. And would Lena love the story enough to really invest time and money into it? That's the question. Folks can say they like anything but will they care enough to fight for it. And is it just me, seems like he couldn't wait to do a bragging post about this. Why even mention this? Is this why he came back to Kboards, to brag and hope folks kiss his feet? It's just bad form to be missing from a forum for years then come on to brag. To me it's like Hugh suffers from "big fish in a little pond" syndrome. He isn't famous outside indie circles it seems so he clings on to the support indies give him because that's where he really can feel like a big shot.  Reminds me of Trump. Just clinging on to anyone who praises him. LOL! |
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Post by writeway on May 23, 2021 1:13:19 GMT
Maybe I'm not the only one who feels it's bad form. I didn't even read his post but I saw it has over 500 views yet only 17 comments. That's telling. Seems to me folks don't care or just don't want to hear it. And he sure is posting a lot of threads suddenly. Yeah, someone needs some cheerleader attention.  |
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Post by tweek on May 23, 2021 8:20:22 GMT
I've been reading loads of these forums for years now. Every time a previously successful person comes back offering to share their vast knowledge it has always meant they're not doing well. And it's all about the optics in this business. Lot of people pretending to do better than they are, even if it means they have to outright lie or spin the truth. Some time later you find out they were buying their own books or the 'deal' never materialized or they were spending more money on ads than they made, etc, etc.
And it's true. Why didn't Amazon Studios pick up Wool? Because the big boys only pick up stuff while it's hot. They don't wait until the audience are stone cold dead and then pick it up. The game is to build on an existing audience while they're still interested.
Hugh looks more desperate by the day and kboards looks more dead now he has 3 threads in the top 10. He can't even pull an audience on kboards and it's chock-full of shills. Lol.
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Post by K'Sennia Visitor on May 24, 2021 23:26:17 GMT
Aw, you don't like serials? They're fun to write but I don't wanna write them for Vella. I plan to write my own serial soon because I do enjoy writing shorts. Serials can be very lucrative for authors because it's very easy to hook readers. Many complain about cliffhangers yet will keep buying the books anyway. LOL! As for Wool, I'm not a fan of Sci-Fi or whatever genre he writes so it never occurred to me to get any of his books. The Apple TV thing is definitely not Hollywood but good luck to him on it. Sure is funny though. Since Hugh has such an in with Amazon, you'd think Amazon Studios might be interested or maybe he shopped it to them and they didn't want it. I like Lena Headey but once again this sounds like a repeat of what Hugh said last time about Ridley Scott. And would Lena love the story enough to really invest time and money into it? That's the question. Folks can say they like anything but will they care enough to fight for it. And is it just me, seems like he couldn't wait to do a bragging post about this. Why even mention this? Is this why he came back to Kboards, to brag and hope folks kiss his feet? It's just bad form to be missing from a forum for years then come on to brag. To me it's like Hugh suffers from "big fish in a little pond" syndrome. He isn't famous outside indie circles it seems so he clings on to the support indies give him because that's where he really can feel like a big shot. Reminds me of Trump. Just clinging on to anyone who praises him. LOL! Yeah, Hugh was definitely humble-bragging with his post. I think he's doing his best to drum up online attention and to get people talking about him again. I don't think it's working at exactly the scale he'd like, but hey, we're talking about him! I have complicated feelings about serials. I had a long post about it, and then I decided to edit it out cos my feelings are complicated and in flux, and will probably change over time. |
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Reminds me of Trump. Just clinging on to anyone who praises him. LOL! 
